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God ditches the GOP / This just in: Even the Lord has abandoned the desperate, shameful Right
News Type: Opinion — Seeded on Thu Sep 4, 2008 11:33 AM EDT
Article Source: The San Francisco Chronicleadvertisement
This just in: Hurricane of delicious irony slams Republican National Convention, flooding the streets of Minneapolis/St. Paul with rivers of savage hypocrisy as levees of evangelical denial and sexual confusion overflow into the streets, leaving stunned party members scrambling in vain for shaky moral high ground.
Meanwhile, clever looters smash windows of opportunity and steal valuable quips about underage sex and teen pregnancy, as everyone gets a very unsettling if not downright weird taste of warped pro-gun anti-choice elk-kabob conservative Alaskan family values. YouTube at 11.
Yes, the rumors are true. The cosmic votes have all been tallied, and I do believe we can now say, with some measure of happy certainty, that God appears to be just as sick-to-death of the Republican Party as the rest of us.
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{"commentId":2752563,"authorDomain":"chum"}
Funny, then, the ironies of nature and time and God, no? For there was Gustav, roaring through the Gulf Coast and shutting down a large, sweaty chunk of the Republican National Convention as he conjured all manner of painful Katrina-esque nightmares, reminding anyone with the slightest sense of integrity of just how inept and dangerous the Republican Party has been lo these past eight insufferable years. Ah, cosmic irony. Sweet like candy.
{"commentId":2752563,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"chum"}
- 20 votes
#1 - Thu Sep 4, 2008 11:35 AM EDT{"commentId":2755828,"authorDomain":"babin"}
I like this guy. Great descriptions.
{"commentId":2755828,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"babin"}
- 12 votes
{"commentId":2757007,"authorDomain":"chum"}
Yes, Mark definitely has a way with words. Sometimes he's over the top, but he makes his point.
{"commentId":2757007,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"chum"}
- 14 votes
{"commentId":2757821,"authorDomain":"SVForbes"}
Actually, the Irony likely is that the Hurricane gave the GOP the opportunity to highlight the GOP's message of "Service" and "country first." by agreeing to scale back the convention and spending time seeking donations for those in need.
Also a hot mike picked up a few Dems laughing about the hurricane......not a good thing when a hurricane is a serious issue that adversely effects many people.
The RNC was certainly more low key than Obama's DNC's expensive extravaganza.
The Dem's, and all those laughing about this hurricane's timing, need to be careful invoking the lord, for such self serving reasons ....the Lord can bite back sometimes, when people become too self righteous. ;-)
{"commentId":2757821,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"SVForbes"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":2757941,"authorDomain":"chum"}
Shaun, you and I disagree on this, which is fine. I believe the GOP has run the country into the ground in the last 8 years and serviced their friends first. You don't.
Morford is irreverent, which does amuse me. And I guess my spirituality doesn't have much in common with the Christianity I find in many churches.
But thanks for coming by.
{"commentId":2757941,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"chum"}
- 14 votes
{"commentId":2758049,"authorDomain":"sonnetizer"}
The Dem's, and all those laughing about this hurricane's timing, need to be careful invoking the lord, for such self serving reasons ....the Lord can bite back sometimes, when people become too self righteous. ;-)
As the repugs have discovered, perhaps... The author is absolutely spot-on: Had Gustav hit during the Dem convention it would have been proclaimed as proof of God's wrath towards them heathens.
{"commentId":2758049,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"sonnetizer"}
- 11 votes
{"commentId":2758136,"authorDomain":"SVForbes"}
The issue, Chum, is not political.
The issue is that people are gloating and invoking God about a hurricane, and that issue is nothing to gloat about for any self-serving, self congratulatory reason.
It shows a certain callousness.
I doubt any God would approve.
Keep on Laughing....y'all. ;-)
{"commentId":2758136,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"SVForbes"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":2758312,"authorDomain":"Nardol"}
He who laughs last, laughs best. This amusing article was a bit premature, considering how well the RNC handled this entire situation.
{"commentId":2758312,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"Nardol"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":2758460,"authorDomain":"acidreflux"}
The issue is that people are gloating and invoking God about a hurricane
Yes, the good God-fearing folk on the Right would never make similar assertions about disasters being signs of God's displeasure with their political foes. They'd never be so crass as to blame 9/11 on the toleration of homosexuals, or gloat over AIDS as a sign of his wrath toward the same.
Please. It's getting so thick in here, I'm going to need a bigger pair of hip waders.
{"commentId":2758460,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"acidreflux"}
- 14 votes
{"commentId":2758503,"authorDomain":"chum"}
Shaun, I happen to agree that we shouldn't laugh at others' plight. I've seen the devastation a hurricane can bring. Heck, Bush's debacle regarding Katrina made a lot of people more aware of it. But if you've ever heard the crap the right has spewed about how hurricanes are God's way of punishing FL because of Gay Day at Disneyland and all the other junk, you'd see the humor in this too.
And I think god has a sense of humor. But that's just my opinion. ;-)
{"commentId":2758503,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"chum"}
- 11 votes
{"commentId":2758683,"authorDomain":"SVForbes"}
Bush's debacle regarding Katrina
Not mounting an adequate response due to lack of manpower and poor planning on the part of all government officials both Dem and republican is a far cry from Laughing about someone else's misfortune.
I agree God has a sense of humor. I just don't think God would think this is tasteful humor.
It is really rather pathetic. But that's just my opinion.
Keep on laughing.......If y'all believe in God, then y'all know that he just might smite all thee who are laughing despite another's suffering.
{"commentId":2758683,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"SVForbes"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":2758840,"authorDomain":"transfer"}
Shaun,
"Actually, the Irony likely is that the Hurricane gave the GOP the opportunity to highlight the GOP's message of "Service" and "country first." by agreeing to scale back the convention and spending time seeking donations for those in need."
The incident struck me as giving the GOP a chance to set right, in some small way, the big black eye they gave themselves with Katrina. And that's not such a bad thing and it shows they consider it, political consideration as it may be. As far as donations for those in need; this is high profile and so it's a sexy opportunity to display their compassion which, in more mundane circumstances, tends toward oppression of the disenfranchised and needy; and here I'm speaking in terms of closing down mental health facilities, forcing religion (at the point of funding cuts) into family planning clinics and the general "if you're down, you must want to be down" rhetoric that seems to come from that side of the house.
"Also a hot mike picked up a few Dems laughing about the hurricane......not a good thing when a hurricane is a serious issue that adversely effects many people. "
It sounds like this is gearing up to be the "hot mike" election. There's lots of that stuff going on - I didn't happen to hear that one, though. But, again, this goes back to the "keystone cops" response by the conservative administration to the impact of Katrina.
{"commentId":2758840,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"transfer"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":2758877,"authorDomain":"sherwood-1"}
I am convinced that God has a sense of humor. That is why you should be careful of what you ask for because God may just give it to you for a good laugh.
{"commentId":2758877,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"sherwood-1"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":2759031,"authorDomain":"SVForbes"}
because God may just give it to you for a good laugh.
Good point.
God has been claimed by some religions to be quite the Jokester, particularly when angry.
{"commentId":2759031,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"SVForbes"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":2759526,"authorDomain":"bcmadden1025"}
Shaun: You seem to be missing the elephant in the room. While people rumored to have been laughing about the hurricane (with hot mikes) is bad - Republicans have been attributing major disasters to God's anger for at least the last 8 years. They are the ones that ran commercials asking people to pray for rain during the DNC 2008.
Additionally, while you are so quick to talk about some Dems you claim to have overheard on a hot mike, I watched an interview that was LIVE (on purpose & intended to be broadcast) on Monday night with a republican delegate being upset that the party was messed up because some people in gulf states were "getting rained on." This guy was obviously out of touch with what the conventions message was "supposed" to be about - yet he was attending the convention.
People in glass houses shouldn't...
{"commentId":2759526,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"bcmadden1025"}
- 8 votes
{"commentId":2759810,"authorDomain":"SVForbes"}
...rain during the DNC 2008.
I believe that rain would scare you. ;-)
I typically love to walk in the rain.
Oh my.....rain..... ;-)
{"commentId":2759810,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"SVForbes"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":2759833,"authorDomain":"jwbuchan"}
Yes, the good God-fearing folk on the Right would never make similar assertions about disasters being signs of God's displeasure with their political foes. They'd never be so crass as to blame 9/11 on the toleration of homosexuals, or gloat over AIDS as a sign of his wrath toward the same.
I'm getting pretty sick and tired of this reasoning. I can't tell you how many variants of this logic I've seen used lately. "Well, if such and such happened, teh Evil Right would totally [insert reprehensible response]"
Its stupid, its wrong, and it detracts from relevant, intelligent conversation.
{"commentId":2759833,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"jwbuchan"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":2760113,"authorDomain":"chum"}
1.16 It is stupid, but the right wing has been doing it for years. If you like, I can provide some links.
{"commentId":2760113,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"chum"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":2760231,"authorDomain":"bcmadden1025"}
Shaun:
The point is that they seem to be shameless about invoking God for their petty issues. I was taught that this was wrong when I was in 1st grade for goodness sakes!
I too like rain, it's a wonderful life giving element that I am not afraid of.
{"commentId":2760231,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"bcmadden1025"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":2760520,"authorDomain":"acidreflux"}
There's an old saw about people in glass houses, jamie. Some of us are sick of the moralists' hypocrisy. They wish to be offended at the words of their opponents while simultaneously excusing every excess of their supporters.
As someone points out below, being able to dish it out and not take it is the first hallmark of the bully. Put your own house in order and then you can go complain all you want to about the neighbors. When I see the usual suspects here post a long rant after Rush or Robertson or that ilk spew their garbage, I'll start to sit up and take notice. Until then, it's just empty whining, as far as I am concerned.
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- 4 votes
{"commentId":2760602,"authorDomain":"pjwrites"}
Shaun,
Keep on laughing.......If y'all believe in God, then y'all know that he just might smite all thee who are laughing despite another's suffering.
What if I don't believe in God, will I still be smited?
And, if I am, will you laugh?
{"commentId":2760602,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"pjwrites"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":2761724,"authorDomain":"transfer"}
Some of us are sick of the moralists' hypocrisy.
Agreed!
And some of us (well, me, anyway) are just sick of moralists altogether....
{"commentId":2761724,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"transfer"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":2762551,"authorDomain":"africancoconut"}
as I recall the prayer originated with the Republicans against the Dem's, it seems to me you brought down your own wrath
{"commentId":2762551,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"africancoconut"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":2754608,"authorDomain":"hamid"}
Mark does it again! It's a shame the republicans aren't as tough as liberals, they're already crying foul. They don't believe they're as open to scrutiny as the left, they can certainly dish it out, but they can't take it...
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- 15 votes
#2 - Thu Sep 4, 2008 12:32 PM EDT{"commentId":2757033,"authorDomain":"chum"}
You just KNOW that if Gustav had hit during the Democratic Convention, they'd be saying it was God's judgment.
{"commentId":2757033,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"chum"}
- 12 votes
{"commentId":2757794,"authorDomain":"partisanhack"}
You just KNOW that if Gustav had hit during the Democratic Convention, they'd be saying it was God's judgment.
Given that Democrats has little to do with "Heckuva Job, Brownie!" I doubt that somehow.
He who lives by the spin dies by the spin.
{"commentId":2757794,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"partisanhack"}
- 7 votes
{"commentId":2757984,"authorDomain":"chum"}
sorry--I meant the Republicans would be having a field day with it.
{"commentId":2757984,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"chum"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":2755107,"authorDomain":"aine"}
LMFAO! OMG, this was hilarious! :D
{"commentId":2755107,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"aine"}
- 16 votes
#3 - Thu Sep 4, 2008 12:47 PM EDT{"commentId":2757064,"authorDomain":"chum"}
Yeah--he nailed it.
{"commentId":2757064,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"chum"}
- 13 votes
{"commentId":2768553,"authorDomain":"SthPacific"}
OMG Aine and I had comments collapsed here for hinting at what he is saying in this article. I found the way GOP used their own countrymen's misery to score cheap political points here to be utterly disgusting. I still remember those headlines, "New Orleans Dodges a Bullet" then the levies collapsed due to the crumbling infrastructure in the expected tidal surge. Katrina was an average Hurricane, my first thought was when they were evacuating was, "They haven't fixed the levies"
{"commentId":2768553,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"SthPacific"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":2770130,"authorDomain":"chum"}
3.2 Mark Morford likes to walk the edge, and he calls it like he sees it. It may offend some, but they don't have to read it if it does. The title makes it pretty clear what he thinks.
{"commentId":2770130,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"chum"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":2755392,"authorDomain":"njb"}
Thanks for the laugh!
{"commentId":2755392,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"njb"}
- 7 votes
#4 - Thu Sep 4, 2008 12:56 PM EDT{"commentId":2756000,"authorDomain":"pjwrites"}
I don't get it. Where's the joke?
;-)
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- 2 votes
#5 - Thu Sep 4, 2008 1:17 PM EDT{"commentId":2756326,"authorDomain":"gypsywolfspirit"}
I think this article was brilliant! I love how Mark put "She" when referencing God. It just goes to show that the Right can not take what they dish out. They are the supreme hypocrits! There are numerous passages in the Bible that state that hypocrisy is wrong in the eyes of Jesus and God. You'd think that since the Right claims to be better Christians than anyone else that they would have read that and understood what it means. But instead they seem to have never read the Bible, either that or they do not understand and single word in there that does not agree with what they WANT to believe. They are not true Christians at all.
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- 9 votes
#6 - Thu Sep 4, 2008 1:28 PM EDT{"commentId":2757218,"authorDomain":"sevenwishes35"}
The reason why the Republican Christian-Right has lost the backing of this entity called God ,is because he (GOD) does not exist! When you base your platform and government on a FANTASY then you have to keep shoveling more fantasy under the original fantasy to keep the fantasy alive! When you have no legs you do not have a leg to stand on, mankind INVENTED God because man needed a way to explain the world around him. Well the world around us has been pretty much explored and explained in SCIENTIFIC TERMS! not in some fabricated unrealistic creationist piffle! When this world accepts the FACTS FOR THE FACTS instead of this lie called GOD, then we will have peace on earth because we will all be ONE RACE!
{"commentId":2757218,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"sevenwishes35"}
- 7 votes
#7 - Thu Sep 4, 2008 1:58 PM EDT{"commentId":2768650,"authorDomain":"SthPacific"}
No Joseph P. Uhl, the Republican G.O.D. does exist. (in Gold Oil and Drugs they trust)
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- 5 votes
{"commentId":2757288,"authorDomain":"mscyprah"}
This just in: Hurricane of delicious irony slams Republican National Convention, flooding the streets of Minneapolis/St. Paul with rivers of savage hypocrisy as levees of evangelical denial and sexual confusion overflow into the streets, leaving stunned party members scrambling in vain for shaky moral high ground.
Brilliant, brilliant comment. Exquisitely portrayed and so darn apt! ha ha ha. I'm rolling on the floor in agony with sides splitting!
Thank you, Chum. Great seed.
{"commentId":2757288,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"mscyprah"}
- 13 votes
#8 - Thu Sep 4, 2008 2:00 PM EDT{"commentId":2770135,"authorDomain":"chum"}
Morford puts that English or journalism degree to work, doesn't he? Yeah, I appreciate a nice turn of phrase.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":2758200,"authorDomain":"zapman9103"}
Didn't you hear, that GOD is a community organizer too! As was Jesus and all his apostles. "What if God was one of us?"
{"commentId":2758200,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"zapman9103"}
- 4 votes
#9 - Thu Sep 4, 2008 2:36 PM EDT{"commentId":2758737,"authorDomain":"SVForbes"}
Are you saying that it's true.....that Obama supporters believe he is "The One"?
If I have interpreted your thought correctly, that is too precious.
So, if Obama is "the one," then he caused the hurricane, and you are saying that "the one" does not really care about people.....only winning.
Case closed.....
{"commentId":2758737,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"SVForbes"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":2758875,"authorDomain":"v-shious"}
How dare she mock the Lord. She better watch out for lightning bolts.
{"commentId":2758875,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"v-shious"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":2758998,"authorDomain":"chum"}
No, Shaun, I don't think Obama is a Messiah--just a good guy who may be able to accomplish some things. But I do believe that all of us carry some divine part in us that sometimes comes out. No one I know of believes that any person caused a hurricane (although global warming certainly isn't helping).
But Jesus was a rabble rouser. And it's ironic that so many conservative politicians invoke him when he clearly had nothing in common with them.
{"commentId":2758998,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"chum"}
- 7 votes
{"commentId":2759090,"authorDomain":"SVForbes"}
And it's ironic that so many conservative politicians invoke him when he clearly had nothing in common with them.
That statement can just as easily be turned around.
Have your laugh at the expense of hurricane victims who had to leave their homes and return to flooded basements. This type of thought would not even have crossed my mind, if the tables were turned.
If there is a God, the Dems won't be allowed to spin their way out of this one.....damage done. ;-)
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":2759242,"authorDomain":"SVForbes"}
How dare she mock the Lord. She better watch out for lightning bolts.
Can't be a very bright God, either. If he can't tell a he from a she.
{"commentId":2759242,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"SVForbes"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":2759588,"authorDomain":"kj031056"}
Let's try to remember the Jesus was a liberal Jew.
{"commentId":2759588,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"kj031056"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":2760498,"authorDomain":"zapman9103"}
I am certainly not sayig Obama is the ONE! He is no more the one, as God is in all Christians. Don't be absurd and try to change my point. And to blame the hurricane on God and Jesus! Well, if you had any humility and read the great works of religion, maybe you would get it. Disasters are throughout the Bible and other great works of religions and philosophies of the world. They are meant to humble us and cause us to question our values and what is truly eternal in life. Its not just the power of God, earth, creation and so on... but our hubris. These ideas pre-date the Bible, and can even be seen in the teachings of Plato and Socrates, aside from others. Its even in the eastern religions, where people are devastated by natural disasters all the time. Natural disasters in the ancient world were much more adverse than anything seen today, like Katrina or Gustav. Entire societies and cities were totally wiped out. So, that's not just Christian belief, but scientifically, archaeologically evident.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":2760780,"authorDomain":"SVForbes"}
Calm down. I wasn't changing your point because quite honestly I did not get your point.
I am just adding comments to Chum's interesting thread.
BTW: I don't believe a God, if one exists, punishes people by killing them with natural disasters.
I think, if there is a God. A god would likely meet out punishment that is poetically just....A karmic type of justice.
A karmic type of punishment is far more subtle and far more painful than enduring a hurricane.
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- 4 votes
{"commentId":2761403,"authorDomain":"zapman9103"}
Personal Karma is not seperate from the natural environment. The idea is seen in the Bible as well, as Christ is a traveler who is in sink with the earth and the heavens through space and time. This same idea is repeated in eastern religions, such as in the idea of yin and yang and the balance of the universe. The questions of both science and spirituality often deal with our ability to live in harmony, and move beyond the life of punishment.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":2762706,"authorDomain":"susibv"}
Hey David from San Josie :) Think Palin and McCain would survive an evening out in East San Jose? How about East Palo Alto? Richmond maybe? Hmm....International Blvd in Oakland?
There are no amount of teleprompters that could get her out of anything in those towns....
She opens her mouth to scream and get nasty you might as well just slap a red or blue bandana on her.
Let's see Ms. Lipstick Perra point her stupid little finger there and see what she gets.
She'll connect alright :)
People vote there, too
{"commentId":2762706,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"susibv"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":2758946,"authorDomain":"kharlowe"}
Wait a minute, just who is this blasphemer, anyway?
Every one knows God is a Republican and drives an SUV.
Rest assured, people, the real God--money!--hasn't abandoned the Republican party.
{"commentId":2758946,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"kharlowe"}
- 6 votes
#10 - Thu Sep 4, 2008 3:06 PM EDT{"commentId":2759337,"authorDomain":"gypsywolfspirit"}
And the truth comes out! Republicans value and honor money over all else, including life. They put the lives of our soldiers on the line so they can make more money on oil. They want to give more tax breaks to insurance companies so they can make more money on our suffering.
{"commentId":2759337,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"gypsywolfspirit"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":2762919,"authorDomain":"logdump"}
If GOD /He/She drives an SUV Didn't he know Gas would be so high it's not affordable to drive.
{"commentId":2762919,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"logdump"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":2759169,"authorDomain":"acidreflux"}
Every one knows God is a Republican and drives an SUV.
But he does have a hippy son.
{"commentId":2759169,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"acidreflux"}
- 9 votes
#11 - Thu Sep 4, 2008 3:17 PM EDT{"commentId":2759383,"authorDomain":"kharlowe"}
Boy, I guess you nailed him.
(Sorry!)
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- 6 votes
{"commentId":2769119,"authorDomain":"acidreflux"}
Be careful, you might make someone cross.
{"commentId":2769119,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"acidreflux"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":2759598,"authorDomain":"susibv"}
:) I would love to see Mrs. Pitbull with her lipstick on smack dab in the middle of San Francisco (my hometown) trying to sell herself to the crowd......the liberals will eat her alive, the conservatives will turn their noses up at the upstart and the rest of the crowd will sit and stare in complete and utter disbelief.
Something tells me San Francisco isn't on her itinerary........but it would be fun to watch her navigate the Castro, the Mission & the Haight, Vis Valley and BVHP.
You wanna see how good she is in real America?
Just park Mrs. Lipstick on the corners of Capp & 24th, 3rd & Palou, 17th & Castro and Geneva Avenue...or better yet on the 44, 15, 9, 49, M Oceanview bus and tramlines....and wind her up and see how far she gets.
:)
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- 3 votes
#12 - Thu Sep 4, 2008 3:37 PM EDT{"commentId":2762090,"authorDomain":"zapcypher"}
boo yah! I hope she DOES go there!
{"commentId":2762090,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"zapcypher"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":2762588,"authorDomain":"susibv"}
She can't.....it would be open season on pitbulls wearing lipstick.
Besides, pitbulls of ANY kind are illegal in San Francisco.....they are a danger to the community.
{"commentId":2762588,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"susibv"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":2759897,"authorDomain":"rapax"}
you people are fools, you think democrats are any different?? Guess what the key to the problem is foreign policy and that's not going to change.... soo.... who likes fascism? cuzz thats what we are going to be whether a democrat or a republican get office but whatever
{"commentId":2759897,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"rapax"}
- 1 vote
#13 - Thu Sep 4, 2008 3:50 PM EDT{"commentId":2760264,"authorDomain":"chum"}
No need to call names. I'm keeping a tighter rein on this thread. I agree that politicians in general are not looking out for our best interest. We may not be able to fix the mess that is the political system.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":2762896,"authorDomain":"Nardol"}
Chum- this thread has certainly wandered from the point- The article was witty and amusing, but written before the play was over. I do not think even a brilliant satirist such as the author would be able to carry the argument forward after the RNC responded with compassion and speed in canceling the first night, and then Ms. Sarah sat them all back on their heels with her in-your-face oratory. 37 MILLION people witnessed her feisty, REAL WOMAN slap at the Democrats on Wed. , and it can be argued that this attention would never have occurred had it not been for the hiccup of "an inconvenient hurricane" (pun intended).
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- 5 votes
{"commentId":2763131,"authorDomain":"chum"}
Nardol, I welcome all civil opinions, and yours certainly qualifies.
But I disagree. I agree that the RNC responded appropriately with more compassion than Bush's Katrina fiasco. Always good news.
Mrs. Palin may have impressed you, but it sounded like Bush's oratory (when he stuck to the script) to me. I wasn't particularly impressed with her. And I think the fact that she broke the news of her pregnant daughter (before the Enquirer could put the story out) got a lot of people interested. Let's talk about what her policies mean to the environment (which don't mesh with McCain's partially). Let's talk about her stances for women--she's not a feminist, which I am.
Let's talk about tax cuts for the endangered middle class or the wealthy (guess which she and McCain support).
I believe Bush was very bad for the country, and frankly, McCain/Palin aren't different enough for my taste.
But I appreciate (and applaud) your very level tone. Please feel free to comment anytime. I assure you that I will read your comments and respond respectfully.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":2763537,"authorDomain":"Nardol"}
Chum, I also relish robust dialog- it is how we learn, from each other. I take some of your points-ie: Bush/Katrina=fiasco. However, I did not read a dismissal of the middle class in this speech. I heard strong support for small business, which, honestly , is the very heart and soul of the middle class, since they provide the majority of the jobs. I have many friends, family, acquaintances,et Al that work for auto shops, flower shops, insurance agents, computer repair joints, home-based clothing companies, the list goes on. They all file income taxes as individuals, and therefore qualify as "rich" to Democrats. However, they pay payroll to 1, 6 or 10 people, they have to stock inventory, they pay payroll taxes and spend 60-80 hours a week trying to keep their head above water. These are the very people I see threatened by Obama. Please tell me I am wrong.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":2763704,"authorDomain":"africancoconut"}
Chum the article wasn't witty are amusing, the only reason the RNC was canceled had nothing to do with compassion they had nothing to offer except Bush and they didn't even want him there as far as Sara is concerned most people that I have talked to today did not feel she related to them in any way. as I saw it those were the ELITE people. and no pun intended to her being a real woman if that your interpretation of a real woman.
ON SECOND THOUGHT PUN INTENDED
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":2764871,"authorDomain":"Nardol"}
bechinrdge----Uh- could you repeat this in cogent English? It didn't,
i'm so sorry to say, track well. Please try again.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":2770579,"authorDomain":"chum"}
13.4 Nardol, my problem with what Palin said about helping the middle class is that this was a campaign speech. You may remember Bush's "compassionate conservatism" speeches which later translated into disastrous policies that helped no one except his rich cronies (and a few other corporations). Remember Bush's base--the Haves and the Have Mores. The middle class (which has lost immense ground in the last 8 years) doesn't have enough power to matter to him (or most Republicans).
Palin campaigned on getting that infamous Bridge to Nowhere, and later realized that the state could not afford it (and now campaigns on her refusing the Bridge--which simply isn't honest).
So what Republicans SAY is rarely what we GET. Democrats have certainly been guilty of the same thing, but W has taken it to a new level. And since McCain has changed his mind on every position that I ever agreed with him about (except possibly global warming--not sure if he's changed on that too...yet), then I don't believe them. Palin and McCain have demonstrated that they will say anything to get elected. And I honestly believe that Obama hasn't sold as much of his soul as most politicians.
Palin didn't even support McCain in the primaries, which I find amusing. And that says a lot about how much she's willing to compromise to get this position of power (not to mention putting her family through the wringer).
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":2760462,"authorDomain":"rdonaldsnyder"}
Brilliant! And right on the money! Anything that makes fun of the lunatic evangelical fringe is always worth a chuckle.
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- 4 votes
#14 - Thu Sep 4, 2008 4:16 PM EDT{"commentId":2762414,"authorDomain":"africancoconut"}
I don't thing I could have ever made that comment any better are truer
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- 3 votes
#15 - Thu Sep 4, 2008 7:45 PM EDT{"commentId":2765583,"authorDomain":"Nardol"}
Okey dokey.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":2762733,"authorDomain":"ccacross"}
What a AWESOME article!
{"commentId":2762733,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"ccacross"}
- 4 votes
#16 - Thu Sep 4, 2008 8:06 PM EDT{"commentId":2762821,"authorDomain":"militogarza"}
Man, did you hit a nerve! I have a simular blog on my page; but you have Out-Palined Me! JaJajajaja
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#17 - Thu Sep 4, 2008 8:13 PM EDT{"commentId":2762836,"authorDomain":"militogarza"}
HaHaHaHaha! Man You Hit it out the park with that! I have a simular comment on my page, but you have "Out-Palined Me" HaHaHaHa
{"commentId":2762836,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"militogarza"}
- 3 votes
#18 - Thu Sep 4, 2008 8:14 PM EDT{"commentId":2762944,"authorDomain":"Rixar13"}
CHUM thank you for this article, San Francisco is always on the cutting edge.
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- 3 votes
#19 - Thu Sep 4, 2008 8:22 PM EDT{"commentId":2763155,"authorDomain":"chum"}
No kidding. I'm in NC, which is a bit behind the times in a lot of ways.
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- 4 votes
{"commentId":2763615,"authorDomain":"susibv"}
As a true blue (and I mean BLUE) San Francisco girl.....thanks Chum for your comment
Think what you will about San Francisco......it's a city that will not bull@!$%# you...we welcome anyone with open arms....but you mess with us.....there's the door and we'll make sure it hits your ass on the way out.
:)
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- 5 votes
{"commentId":2763723,"authorDomain":"Nardol"}
I LOVE North Carolina! Perhaps behind the times, but hey, you got the Piedmont, the Triangle, the Mountains- such beauty! I know it is off topic, just wanted to say.....
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":2763787,"authorDomain":"susibv"}
Now that I live in Florida.....I hpoe to be able to see a lot of this side of the country.....including the Carolinas. One of my daughter's best friends is from NC and I've seen pictures....for a city girl like me to ooh and ahh over country like that says a lot.
We all have little bits and pieces of God's Country....
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":2770632,"authorDomain":"chum"}
yeah, we're definitely straying off topic...but I do love NC. I think it's beautiful and has great potential. Unfortunately, it's a bit more conservative than I would like. I live in the Triangle, and all those schools (NC State, UNC, Duke, etc) bring a more liberal mindset in general.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":2763646,"authorDomain":"susibv"}
But Obama can't be the one........the Republicans will never allow it......he's too dark and his family tree is too confusing.
{"commentId":2763646,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"susibv"}
- 2 votes
#20 - Thu Sep 4, 2008 9:08 PM EDT{"commentId":2764012,"authorDomain":"africancoconut"}
It may have come a time in the history of this country when Dems are no longer listening to the rhetoric of the Republicans anymore for the last 8 years they have had this country in fear by making just enough people afraid of terrorism to keep themselves in power, the Dem can change this in 08, the one thing the republicans have over us is they will stab each other in the back but when they need each other right are wrong they will rise up stand together, they will let you vote for them and they will let you vote with them but make no mistake you will never be one of them.
There are at least 2 or 3 Democrats for every Republican Senator Obama can win
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- 4 votes
{"commentId":2763710,"authorDomain":"susibv"}
Im watching the Ms. Pitbull vid the RNC is showcasing....I mean really, what does a picture of a woman proudly showing the carcass of a deer she just killed supposed to invoke?
....Mommy, how come you killed Bambi's mommy? I dont like the way she stares at me from the wall.
.....Mommy, are we having bambi burgers, again? Sigh.
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#21 - Thu Sep 4, 2008 9:13 PM EDT{"commentId":2763783,"authorDomain":"Nardol"}
S. from Florida-
Just so you know, comments about her hair style are considered "sexist" to the majority of us hair challenged fems out here- our brains are UNDER the hair, not in it. As opposed to John Edwards-oh sorry- did I say that out loud? Seriously, lets avoid the apperance jokes. shall we?
{"commentId":2763783,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"Nardol"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":2763825,"authorDomain":"susibv"}
ah you're right. Perhaps I should make underhanded racist remarks instead, huh?
I removed the hair comment....because one can't help being who they are, especially if they've inahled too many fumes of something...like a burning Bush...I mean hairspray?
:)
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{"commentId":2763841,"authorDomain":"Nardol"}
AppeArance, sorry. Darn Rum!
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- 1 vote
#22 - Thu Sep 4, 2008 9:24 PM EDT{"commentId":2763883,"authorDomain":"susibv"}
I'll see yer rum and raise you a tequilla! :)
Did she forget to change her white sheets? Could have sworn her head looked a little pointy last night.
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{"commentId":2764100,"authorDomain":"Nardol"}
I completely disagree with your imputation here. I hear NOTHING reminiscent of re constructionist Southern politics here, much less "white sheets". Careful of your analogies, friend. Some of us lived and suffered under a different world, and throwing these things around like children in a daycare, such as 'white sheets' and, elsewhere, fascist (which has no connection with ANY party in THIS country, but check out Russia) is only inflammatory and harmful. Tipsy I may be, but not blind.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":2764250,"authorDomain":"susibv"}
well alcohol tends to coat the tongue, but loosen the lips and conscience....and numb the senses and reflexes.
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{"commentId":2764338,"authorDomain":"Nardol"}
Excellent quote! Name the source?
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":2764207,"authorDomain":"edhawksford"}
Hillarious....The throngs of protesters, the arrests, the sheer lunacy of the GOP speeches compared to a hurricane. I won't drive in St. Paul until the throngs of the GOP leave. The mud is much too deep.
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- 2 votes
#23 - Thu Sep 4, 2008 9:47 PM EDT{"commentId":2764850,"authorDomain":"maureen-5"}
How dare the Republican partisans chastise Democrats for finding the humor in Hurricane Gustav raining on their convention. Where was their outrage when that cockroach pretending to be a human, James Dobson, had an item on his religious website encouraging the faithful to pray that it would rain on OBama's address.?
I am declaring war on the hypocrisy of the Right. No more allowing for their narrow mindedness or lack of self awareness. Every dirty, rotten word or prank will be met with derision and contempt. Don't poison the well we are admonished by rational voices. Normally, when Dems are in a knife fight the Republicans show up with guns. Well, I intend to show up with plague, IEDs, and suitcase bombs and leave them maimed beyond repair and terrified they will live after election day. Barack and Joe can mildly, nobly go on their way, espousing an issues oriented campaign that seeks to appeal to the moderate, rational citizen. Not any more. Those of us who are willing to meet or exceed Republican tactics don't want to be acknowledged for ensuring Democratic victory at the National and State levels. No, we will be more than content to get universal health care, parental leave, retreat from Iraq, reproductive privacy and energy independence. I am bitter and angry but I am neither afraid nor alone. The next couple of months will be really exciting. Bring it on!
{"commentId":2764850,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"maureen-5"}
- 2 votes
#24 - Thu Sep 4, 2008 10:32 PM EDT{"commentId":2765022,"authorDomain":"Nardol"}
Whoo- Anarchy, thy name is mabeblu. Please aquit me,at least, of following the good Rev. Dobson or his precepts, as I aquit Obama of following the good Rev. Wright. Calm down. Need we speed of knives and guns? the rational discourse on this thread can help us all.
{"commentId":2765022,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"Nardol"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":2765520,"authorDomain":"Nardol"}
speak. rum again.
{"commentId":2765520,"threadId":"348965","contentId":"1826118","authorDomain":"Nardol"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":2765946,"authorDomain":"cpaul44"}
I am sorry for this young man Johnson, the father of Ms. Palin's daughter's child. Before her VP pick, he stated on his Face Book file that he doesn't want any children. He was forced to withdraw this statement from face book and now the poor young man is in for a shotgun wedding to fit in to Ms. Palin's imagery, and suitability for her expected new role as VP and one Anointed by the Almighty to rule the Land of the Evil and inflict the Rod of Correctness and Punishment on Earths Evil Doers. What selfishness. Forcing a young man into a permanent relationship that he is not yet ready to assume.To satisfy Political ambition and attain Political Power. Then parading the young man in front of all America. Wonder, what his parents think? Or are they helpless? Yes, Governor Palin, you as Monarch of Alaska, is like Robinson Crusoe - " I am Monarch of all I survey and my right there in none to dispute, from the centre all round to the sea, I am lord of the fish, fowl and the brutes, Oh I speak not only of Alaska, I speak also of the entire America,Tis, will be my domain, I will proclaim in the name of the Almighty and hunters like Cheney,that the Polar Bear and the Moose, is to be killed and eaten, And the same fate awaits those who refuse to listen, and cast their votes so that My Leader McCain and I Sarah Palin will have another 4 years to further create more of Hell in the Heaven (Haven), The Haven Which You Non Believers call America but which we call Purgatory, Remember the Almighty has entrusted me to ensure that for your Sins against His Decree, that you first suffer another 4 years of high Gas Prices, Poor Health Care, Shipping Away of Your Jobs, High College Fees, Seizure of Your Houses by Lucifer and many other forms of punishments, Then the Almighty will then crown me, Sarah the keeper of his Words for another 4 years. If you fail to submit, You will be punished for another 4 years. Nothing or nobody can help you, Not even your Democratic Party and your New Leader Obama can Save you. Like I did with Gandhi,King, Jack and Robert. I will deem Obama as an inexperienced Rabble Rowser and lowly Community Organizer, State Legislator and Senator and destined to burn in the the Fires of Hell. I, Sarah Governor of Alaska and John who loves War and Punishment like me , So Proclaim and Decree in the name of the Almighty Lucifer, our Leader who has been disguised as the Almighty God,the Real Ruler of Earth for thousands of years.
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- 1 vote
#25 - Thu Sep 4, 2008 11:40 PM EDT{"commentId":2768322,"authorDomain":"edhawksford"}
I hope that this shot gun wedding somehow works out; however it is a tragedy of our society that we have so many young unprepared mothers in this country. If parents can not assume the responsibility of teaching our youth the facts about sex we need to do it in our schools. Education is a societal obligation, not merely a parental one. When parents preach from the pulpit about abstinence they deserve any criticism they get...but leave the kids out of it because they were probably not educated properly and now have to endure the consequences of their parents naive approach to rearing their hormone infested teens..............been there done that. If they do get married I hope that it is successful if it ends in divorce which statistics will corroborate I hope the child will be surrounded by the compassion and love that each child deserves
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- 1 vote
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